illegal immigrants are breaking the law but the reason they come here illegaly because it is so hard for them to get papers...so necesity brings them to extreme measures crossing the border is no walk in the park hundreds of mexicans die trying to cross over. QUESTION Are immigrants criminals for wanting a better life?And its not true that they rape the country of money we have one of the best economies in the world and as far as im concerned the unemployment rate is at 5% nationally so who are the immigrants taking the jobs from high school students? WE LOVE THE USA AND APPRECIATE THE HELP THAT THEY%26#039;VE GIVEN US AND IM SORRY IF YOUR POOR BECAUSE OF US....
Illegal immigrants are criminals...?credit check
i am a american and proud to say i have a perfect mexican wife,people from mexico work like all the first families of the new america had to work,---- very hard and for many hours ,now mexicans work for very little pay,both in mexico and in the usa,mexican wifes respect the husbands as the head of the house,do american wifes?mexicans don%26#039;t complain that they must work,nor do they wast money on stupid stuff, do americans? we have grown very lazy as a nation look around do i lie? their gov steals and lies has ours ever been caught at this?--by the way my wife must live in mexico because yes its very dam hard to get approval from immigration to be together,so may be i may have to be a immigrant worker their in mexico,but they will not be disrespectful to me because my government would not help me to have a better life, our gov like all are smoke and mirror%26#039;s, its just a big game played by rich boy%26#039;s with no concern for the life of the simple man and the promise to represent and defend our rights ,its not about mexico can%26#039;t anyone see past the propaganda look around the world every one is controlled by some one else-even CNN-ABC-BBC
Illegal immigrants are criminals...? loan
NO.|||Thank you. This is the first time i%26#039;ve seen a question on the immigration issue in which the asker isnt ripping on immigrants and declaring death to all of them.|||No, their just illegal. And they take all of our jobs.|||nope get them out, we have our own to care about. There are others legal ways to work here.|||the only logical way we can condemn immigrants, legal or otherwise, is by considering ourselves as more important than people born in a different part of the world.
borders are silly human inventions.|||Your question is soooo wrong. First of all, they are all criminals by definiton when they entire the country illegally. Every single one. Yes, they do rape the economy. They don%26#039;t pay income taxes, and rely on our national services disppraportionally. California is losing money hand over fist because of them. Furthermore, less than 20 percent of them work in agriculture (the jobs american%26#039;s won%26#039;t take). The rest take substandard wages in sectors that legal people want jobs. Lowering the going rate for wages. They%26#039;re destroying our economy.|||immigrants ain%26#039;t criminals illegal immigrants are.|||I can see both sides but I can%26quot;t find a job right now! I live in a bldg. full of mexicans they all are driving brand new cars and working for less wages. The government is helping them and leaving us stranded!!YOU ARE AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT OR YOU WERE!|||People are so brainwashed by the media. Illegal immigrants are taking jobs away from Americans? Right. Because there are so many Americans who want to do the jobs illegal immigrants do...like picking in the fields where immigrants die from the heat, cleaning office buildings, gardening, cleaning people%26#039;s houses, taking care of people%26#039;s kids. What you don%26#039;t hear is that many of these immigrants use social security numbers that belong to someone else, so they%26#039;re actually paying taxes and paying into social security, which they will NEVER collect on. They actually add more to the economy and get less. It%26#039;s too bad the media is AFRAID to report the facts and resorts to scare tactics to sell newspapers and advertising.|||Technically they%26#039;re criminals because they%26#039;re breaking immigration laws, but the penalty for that is deportation, not jail.
I find it interesting that people want to make them criminals so we can put them in jail, thus housing them at a yearly cost of $25,000 each. How does this help our economy?
FYI, according to a report cited by the Washington Post, 32% of male undocumented workers work in agriculture, 15% employed by manufacturers and 13% in commerce and sales. Women mostly work in commerce and sales, followed by manufacturing and domestic service.|||anyone who does illegal things is supposed to be a criminal.|||No, the illegal immigrants aren%26#039;t criminals for wanting a better life, but they ARE criminals when they do the following:
1. Steal a social security number from a deceased American
2. Take advantage of public assistance such as welfare, food stamps, section 8 housing
3. Have multiple numbers of children and leave U.S. hospitals to pay the tab.|||Illegals draw welfare by stealing people%26#039;s social security numbers and identities. That means there are a lot of people being directly hurt by these people as well. Innocent people are having their credit ratings ruined, having IRS problems, and social security problems. If someone who has had their social security number stolen gets married, if either spouse dies or become disabled then they can be denied their benefits.
My family moved to the US before WWII. Those of my family that didn%26#039;t make it over got killed by the death camps. Our family assimilated to the American culture. We didn%26#039;t expect the Americans to change to suit us. The illegal immigrants from Mexico are not civilized like that.
They not only changed the National Anthem to Spanish, they changed the words. They already burn our flag and hang our flag upside down. They waved the Mexican flag during a lot of their protests. Some schools have stopped hanging the American flag and forbidden students from wearing clothes with any part of the American flag on their clothing all to keep from offending the Mexicans. It%26#039;s nothing short of an attack of our country, not only by the illegal aliens, but those who seek to appease them.
I am tired of the stereotype that Americans wouldn%26#039;t do the work that illegals do. Illegals do all kinds of jobs for less than minimum wage which drives the wages down for U.S. citizens. Construction jobs are an example. There are lots of illegals doing construction jobs that Americans used to do because the companies can keep more of the profits if they pay less for the workers. All that does is make companies wealthier and Americans poorer. Illegals are stealing jobs that Americans have done for years.
If you go to a country and refuse to assimilate, continuing to speak your own language then you are really not an immigrant -- you%26#039;re a colonist ... and that%26#039;s what the Mexicans are doing, they%26#039;re colonizing the American Southwest as part of their %26quot;reconquista%26quot; Read about mecha in the link I provided and you%26#039;ll see what the Mexicans real agenda is.
http://www.americanpatrol.com/MECHA/MECh...
Most Mexicans believe the Southwestern US rightfully belongs to Mexico; and most believe they should have the right to enter the US without government permission. 鈥揨ogby Poll (June 2002)
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Half of all Mexicans 鈥?over 50 million 鈥?would move to the US if given the opportunity. 鈥揚ew Hispanic Center (August 2005)
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84% of Americans view Mexicans favorably.
But only 36% of Mexicans view Americans favorably.
-only 26% of Mexicans say Americans are hard-working.
-only 16% say Americans are honest.
-and 73% say Americans are racist.
-Zogby Poll (March 2006)
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The prohibitive cost of providing illegals with free healthcare has shut down more than 60 hospitals in California since 1993; many more are on the verge of closing. 鈥揓ournal of American Physicians and Surgeons (Spring 2005)
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Illegals enter this country without health screening. Consequently, epidemic diseases from our past 鈥?polio, tuberculosis, plague, leprosy 鈥?are on the rise.
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Illegals consume $69 billion in social services annually. 鈥揜ep. Russell Pearce (AZ)
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According to the US Census, 96% of the increase in public school enrollment is due to immigration.
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The Federation for American Immigration Reform estimates that children of illegal immigrants cost public schools $28.6 billion annually.
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Illegal immigrant labor depresses wages for American citizens by $200 billion a year. 鈥揕ou Dobbs, US News %26amp; World Report (01/31/05)
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The cost of illegal immigration to the American taxpayer is $55,000 per illegal. 鈥揅enter for Immigration Studies (July 2001)
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According to the US DEA, 92% of the cocaine sold in the US comes in through Mexico (2004) as does 65% of meth and a majority of marijuana.
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Illegal immigrants (about 3% of the US population) make up almost 30% of the federal prison population. 鈥揟he Bureau of Justice Statistics (2002)
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Illegal immigrants in the US commit between 1,800 and 2,500 murders each year. 鈥揗ac Johnson, Human Events (12/05/05)
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Al Qaeda leaders have met with Hispanic gangs to plan terrorist attacks against the US. 鈥揟he Washington Times (09/28/04)
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Armed Mexican military units have crossed into the U.S. 216 times since 1996. 鈥揟he Washington Times (01/17/06)|||If you break the law then you are a criminal. But to make absurd laws that make innocent people guilty then that makes the people who created them unlawful. There are so many laws that should not be in effect. If the law causes harm to anyone then yes it should be a crime. But to benefit in a good way no it should not be illegal.
I am not stating that they are criminals but just pointing out that we need to come up with better ways to accommodate those that want to make a better life for themselves and their family. Not those that wish to harm others due to drugs and all. Some Immigrants do come over under the cartel and drugs and that I believe is the main reason why it became illegal for any person to come across undocumented. Just the other day there were 4 immigrants caught that were under a certain gang that kills people and that I believe is a good enough reason to make it a law.
But for those that try for a better life I feel for them because they reap the bad stuff that others have done to create this law. Congress needs to work out this law and make it possible for anyone to live here legally and in a quicker and more friendly way.|||It doesnt matter why they came here, they still broke the law. I dont know about labeling them as a criminal. When i think of a criminal i think of a robbery or someone who murdurs; however its still bad because they are breaking the law. You can justify their actions by saying they did so to better their life...i dont know. theres more to it than that. Is there another country that would allow 11 million ppl to come to their country because they want a better life by disobeying the law...i dont think so|||Hop, you say the following, like it is a good thing:
%26quot;What you don%26#039;t hear is that many of these immigrants use social security numbers that belong to someone else, so they%26#039;re actually paying taxes and paying into social security, which they will NEVER collect on.%26quot;
Give me a break! You think it is okay that they steal SSNs? When they do that, they do severe damage financially to the victims whose SSNs they steal!! They screw people badly in this way! Why do you and the other illegal immigrants not know how bad this is to do to people?? As well, I%26#039;ve read on this forum many times that illegals also often claim so many dependents that they don%26#039;t hardly get any taxes taken out of their paycheques with the stolen SSNs. So, no, they don%26#039;t pay their fair share of taxes, no way! No where near what they consume in education costs, medical costs, welfare (yes, they also collect welfare with their stolen SSNs), and the costs they incur when they drive without licenses or insurance and cause accidents which, in turn, causes everyone else%26#039;s insurance premiums to go up to cover the costs.
So, yes, as long as they are in the country illegally, they are criminals and they commit more and more crimes with the fraud that they go on to commit.
Also, one more thing, even if the only jobs they were taking were jobs that high school students want, this is also not acceptable. The high school students who are legal citizens of the USA deserve those jobs and the illegal immigrants do not!
It is hard for them to get papers? Give me a break! Anything worth having is worth working for, right? Haven%26#039;t you ever heard that? It%26#039;s true! If they want their papers badly enough, they should be willing to do the work that needs to be done to get them. Then, the USA will welcome them with open arms because the USA LOVES LEGAL IMMIGRANTS!|||What are you talking about.....They are illegal in the since that every country has laws that have to be respected. When you come to a country you have to become a citizen. A legal citizen! This allows the government to take taxes out of your check just like all other legal citizens.
The reason why so many people are concerned with this (including legal Mexican Americans, Polish, Arab, Asians etc) is that these illegals are refusing to assimilate into the culture of speaking English and making someone pay them what they are worth.
Look at this way..when employers see that they have someone who is not legal but wants a job as a construction worker (example) they offer them a job for far less than what they would pay a citizen. IF the average contruction worker is making $34.00 an hour and an illegal immigrant wants to do the job for $6.50 what is going to stop the employer from hiring more illegal immigrants. The employer is saving thousands of dollars a year because they don%26#039;t have to pay out in benefits. That%26#039;s money in their pocket.
Why do you think these big companies like FORD and CINGULAR are laying off their workers and going to countries like Mexico and India? Because the labor is cheap and they can get away with paying people $3.00 a day.
When you become a legal citizen you have rights under the federal law that protects you against unfair wages, and you are able to take advantage of the many benefits that are being handed out by the federal government.
I think that they do themselves an injustice when they sell themselves short.|||As an American citizen, I cannot respect anyone who breaks the laws of my country. If they do not respect a law about the proper procedures of immigration why should I believe they will respect any law in my county. Legal immigrants have every right to come here and pursue the American dream, illegals have no rights whatsoever, however they suck system dry and and violate the the very rights on every American citizen and legal immigrant in the greatest country on earth. I have traveled extensively and can say that without impunity. Does wanting a better life warrant breaking the laws of my country. I could financially have a better life in illegal trades but I do not because their illegal. Hey are where you come from a democracy? Then do what we do vote- don%26#039;t vote - don%26#039;t *****.|||can you spell ILLEGAL They live 10 to 20 to a household and thrash the place so bad the owners make the next tenant pay more deposits to move in and the property value hits rock bottom!! then before you know it drugs and violence are daily news items.|||one: the reason they take these jobs is b/c they%26#039;ll actually do them for illegal pay (under minimum wage), which as a natural born citizen, i would never take as it only encourages such action and it%26#039;s bad enough american jobs get outsourced. and they are taking jobs frompeople other than high school students. we have plenty of unskilled workers, but they demand to be paid according to the law.
two: i have met plenty of immigrants who have wanted better lives and got here legally. i also know descendants of immigrants whose relatives can%26#039;t get over here legally, so they stay put.
three: illegal immigrants shouldn%26#039;t even be on welfare. that%26#039;s a program for CITIZENS who need help getting on their feet. plus, why be on welfare when u can work 3 jobs for peanuts?|||I thought illegal immigration was considered a misdemeanor. And yes they are taking jobs.
%26quot;Are immigrants criminals for wanting a better life?%26quot;
If you mean illegal immigrants, they are still illegal regardless of them wanting a better life.|||It is not criminal to want a better life. What is criminal is how they go about getting it. One of the disturbing things is that these illegals that cross from Mexico aren%26#039;t thinking of anyone but themselves while legals Americans are trying to think of all nations that wish to enter the land of opportunity. Illegals from Mexico have to go thru the exact same process that everyone else does, they know that and so do the people that are showing integrity and following due process.|||Yes, they are criminals.
International law dictates that in order to move from one country to another, one must be in possession of a valid passport which must be stamped at an official port of entry. Do they do that? do they ****.
Other laws dictate that in order to work in the United States, and you aren%26#039;t a US citizen, you need to apply for a work permit through the proper channels. Do they do that? NOPE!
The laws are there for a reason, and if you break them that makes you a criminal, no matter what the circumstances.|||Not all, but certain there are some.
These are the worst.
They need to be deported and jailed in their country.|||Yes, they are criminals. They help Mexico%26#039;s economy by taking jobs in the USA and sending the money back to mexico. They do not help our economy...not paying taxes, using our medical system without paying for it, using our welfare programs, and by keeping the wages so low.|||You Stated :%26quot;the rest are white americans%26quot;
By Your Own Mathematical Calculation - 20 Percent
Considering The RATIO Of ILLEGAL Aliens To
White Americans and Black Americans %26lt; (Your Words) It Would Seem That The ILLEGAL Aliens Are Drawing Proportionately
HUGE Amounts Of Aid Compared To The Others
With More Than 25 Percent Of Welfare Benefits Being Consumed By 5 Percent Of The Population
%26quot;the reason they come here illegaly because it is so hard for them to get papers..%26quot;
Tell That To The MILLIONS Of Immigrants That Took The Pains To Immigrate To Our Country LEGALLY...Im Sure Several Of Them Would Like To SLAP YOUR FACE
There Are 20 MILLION ILLEGAL Aliens
http://www.theamericanresistance.com/ref...
--Less than 2 percent of Illegal Aliens are picking crops
--29 percent of Illegal Aliens are on welfare.
--29 percent of Inmates in the Federal Prisons are Illegal Aliens.
Illegal Aliens are NOT doing work Americans won%26#039;t do.
What jobs won%26#039;t Americans do?
Americans still
--clean their own houses,
--do their own landscaping,
--clean hotel rooms,
--work in restaurants and fast food places,
--paint houses,
--DO CONSTRUCTION WORK,
--work in airports, etc. -
just like we have the past 200 years before %26quot;our%26quot; government allowed these people to invade our country.
There are 18 million Americans who cannot find a job, so illegal aliens who are coming here to work do so at peril to American workers By FALSELY DEPRESSING WAGES.
Local employers figured out they could get ILLEGAL Aliens to work for less than half the same amount.
As an example, a young landscaper who used to make $15 an hour 10 YEARS AGO, can%26#039;t get a similar job now for more than $8 an hour. Same heat. Same difficult working conditions. But with the Depressed Wage, AMERICANS 鈥?who live in a country where the cost of living is miles above that of Mexico%26#039;s 鈥?can%26#039;t afford to take such jobs.It%26#039;s not that he and other Americans don%26#039;t want to do landscaping anymore; it%26#039;s just that in heavily trafficked ILLEGAL Alien environments, IT DOESNT PAY WELL ENOUGH ANYMORE.
If this is what the open borders crowd means by ILLEGAL ALIENS doing jobs Americans don%26#039;t want, they%26#039;re right. American workers want jobs that can Earn them a DECENT LIVING IN THIS COUNTRY. Minimum wage is a fortune south of the border, but it doesn%26#039;t go far here.|||Our education has dropped dramatically in border states due to need for bilingual education which costs a ton the schools don%26#039;t have and slows the entire class down. That is a serious answer.
This is not only due to illegal immigrants any more than illegal immigrants are the only ones who use welfare. However, legal residents and citizens are the ones we pay into welfare for, we don%26#039;t want to pay more to cover people who are illegally here. Similarly, we would give language help to people legally here, but it is one of the most expensive and disruptive issues in education, and we need to limit it to the amount we can manage. That amount is limited by our immigration laws. Our laws don%26#039;t make it %26#039;difficult%26#039; to get in, they flat out say we can only take so many at a time, and you have to stand in line.
I am for legalizing current qualifying illegal immigrants because I feel sorry for their situation, and do kind of think switching gears on the ones who have been here so long is tough. (Although I also think the government should ALWAYS have enforced its laws.)
However, illegal immigration is HUGELY expensive, and once you are on the paying side instead of the benefiting side, you will see that for yourself.
